Wednesday, November 5, 2008

Election Results



Here are, without comment, the election results for the races in the city of Pomona:

Mayor: Elliott Rothman defeated George Hunter 6,630 to 6,816

District 1: Danielle Soto defeated Fred Van Allen 1,503 to 752

District 4: Paula Lantz defeated Primo Castro 1,765 to 1,618

District 6: Stephen Atcheley defeated John Mendoza 1,788 to 1,494

Measure PC (utility tax initiative by John Mendoza): defeated 17,720 to 6,772

Measure PS (Pomona School Bond): passed 25,109 to 8,593

Measure RR (Mt. Sac Bond): passed 136,253 to 58,527

Three Valleys Water District: John Mendoza (yes the same John Mendoza): defeated Fred Lantz 7,883 to 6,315

36 comments:

Anonymous said...

How could the citizens of this city elect an individual for Mayor who was recently picked up by Pomona PD on suspicion of being under the influence of a substance? What are we thinking? This is why this city is in the mess it is in, bad decisions by the citizens. Every time I see Elliott at a council meeting, he is constantly looking at his watch. The only items on the agenda that ever catch his attention are the items pertaining to his sector of the city. He obviously has no interest in the rest of the city. From Norma to him...what an improvement.

MAC

ren said...

yep pomona just shot its self in the foot,might as well turn the council chamber into a bar.

K said...

Eh, as GoP has pointed out, Rothman's blood test came back below the legal threshold (0.08 is the limit; 0.04 is what he had). I've ranted before in this space about how easy it is to fail a field sobriety test. Now, sure, the blood is taken much later, giving the alcohol time to dissipate, and the LA Sheriff's folks are still testing for other substances.

I'm not saying that Rothman is a great guy, or that I'm delighted, I'm just saying that he may be exonerated.

I guess I'll also say that I'm a bit disturbed that he was arrested the day after he sent out mailers falsely implying police endorsement of his campaign. I mean, I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories, I think our police force is honest, and I'm happy to believe that this was a coincidence. But this is something to remember for future reference.

Anonymous said...

Ok, I'll comment.
Fuck Elliot Rothman.
Mark

Anonymous said...

Oh and lets not forget the novelty of sending Nell Soto's 19 year old granddaughter to the council.
People that voted for that liniage should hide their head in shame.
Retards.

John Clifford said...

Mark, don't feel that you have to hold back :-)

K. I completely understand your position on the sobriety thing. However, there are enough other issues with Rothman, such as the issue with he and the transmission shop (as documented by the Daily Bulletin) that are cause for concern. In my dealings with him, he's always been cordial, but I'm just not sure about how he is going to wield his power as our new Mayor.

meg said...

I'm as disappointed as the next person (and in some cases utterly sick at heart) regarding certain election results, but let's keep it civil, folks. It's important to play through the pain to make our community and country a better place.

Pollyanna will now step away from the mic.

Anonymous said...

count to ten.... ok, sorry Meg I shouldn't use profanity.
Especially since it's not my blog.
Apologies.
BUT....my exitement about Obama and the national results is so stunted by the results that I (we) will have to live day to day with at the local level.
I'm not just dissapointed, I'm devastated.
Pomona deserves better and for the near future we have elected walking, breathing jokes.
Mark

meg said...

I have no problems with the word "fuck," Mark, and my comment was a reminder to all of us (myself included) not to direct our election anger at individuals. Even when they deserve it, it's corrosive to the community and bad for our own hearts.

Anonymous said...

Wow...this is what ignorance looks like. Maybe if you ALL could read you would see that there was at NO time a proven case against him for the DUI. And after HE pushed to release the blood test low and behold he was NOT driving while drunk. It is amazing to me the ease to mislead ignorant people. We as a city need someone who is not afraid to stand up to the crime and the cloud that sits over Pomona. And it is a free country if you don’t like it get out……we don’t need people who don’t work as a community, That is what is wrong with our city……

Scott said...

Wow! I hadn't heard of Rothman's run in with the PD. I wish I had prior to voting. Although I suspect everyone weighing in on this blog has driven with a 0.04 blood alchohol level at some time in their past. Is this behavior one of those dirty little secrets or does it appear to be an isolated event? My experience with him has been generally positive; he seems to be the only one who cares about PR in city government.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous...
Charming.
So it's if your not with us, your against us?
Funny, I heard Bush say that a million times and look where it got him and in turn, us.

LinknPark said...

You guys are kind of all off point. We need to hope that the new mayor and city council really will help to fix things in our city, and if not, we need to effectively coordinate a diverse voting base that is actually able to elect our own reps in the future (which evidently we failed to do this time).

We also need to hold people accountable for their actions in City Hall, which means making "much ado" when things do go askew (something else not currently being done effectively).

Also, did you see the results? The turnout for this election wasnt too bad, its a shame that Hunter wasnt able to coordinate with some of the lesser candidates, offering staff positions or what not in order to cull support from their voters. He was one other candidates votes away from a win.

The other anonymous is right, if we as a city (and the majority of us on the blog as historic districts) want our voices heard and our objectives reached, we should be reaching out to the new elected officials instead of bashing them on the blog.

We need to continue to reduce crime, invest in revitalizing downtown and the historic neighborhoods, increase educational and after school funding, and hiring a PR firm to change the publics perception of Pomona wouldnt be a bad idea either. We need to attract desirable elements to Pomona instead of undesirable ones so that we all can live in a safe diverse community.

Whose to say the new slate wont potentially do that, especially if we try to help them along.

tibbi said...

let the crazy shenanigans and Rothman's backlash begin!!!!


(i'm moving to Rialto where corruption is already an everyday part of life)

tibbi said...

on second thought, somebody please iform us of a possible impeachment process for Rothman- and let's proceed with that!!!!!!!!!

tibbi said...

PR?????

What the hell is this talk of PR?

PR isn't gonna help me sling beer to our grateful locals!!!


I don't want to buy an image to appease anyone else.

I don't want my city to, either!

We need to go back to the days where PR didn't exist, only hard work- and wholeheartedness.

People like us bloggers are responsible for showing the good and bad. We have an opportunity to open up dialogue period (on a number of subjects).

PR........ppppffff........

POPPYCOCK!

idiot #1- "Hey let's use city money to hire a public relations firm, so that people will change their minds about pomona."

Me- "Hey, why don't we invest in our city, lower crime, increase small business, let go of some of the city and district owned real estate, keep up with the checkpoints and help our citizens out before we spend a dime on anything else. You can cover a herpes cold sore with band aids and it won't look so bad, but unless you go to the doctor for real treatment, youre just a disease spreading whore."

remember i said that.

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Anonymous said...

LP,

It is good to see that you are quite calm and collective on this issue. We definitely need to be a bit level headed on this topic but it is extremely frustrating to see this happen time and time again within the city. Individuals are elected that do not have the experience or the motivation to make our city a better place, they do it for their own personal gain. I just hope that Elliott is whole heartedly dedicated to this city as a whole and not only portions. I also hope that every voice is heard.

MAC

Anonymous said...

The thing is that with Elliot Rothman we already know what we are getting with his election to the Mayors office.
Indifference to most of Pomona. That is his history.
I don't hold out much hope that he is suddenly going to care about much of anything beyond Phillips Ranch. In the past he has barely acknowledged the rest of us exist.
Sadly I think that after Rothman we are going to say with fondness "Where is Norma Torres when we ned her?"
Yes, he is that bad.

LinknPark said...

Tibbi, you have always seemed to be a nice fellow, so I wont drop idiot bombs on you as you did to me. Hard work and wholeheartedness is nice, but who gives a flying fig when everyone and their brother thinks Pomona is a craphole and should be burnt down (I have lived out here for over 25 years and the perception hasnt changed even though the city actually has gotten quite a bit better). Yeah, and by the way, go ask cities like Ontario who are doing a hell of a lot better than we are about how a little good PR planning goes a long way. Who wants to open up a small business in a perceived craphole city like Pomona, when their investment would be a hell of a lot more secure an in any other city surrounding Pomona. So much for attracting small business, Im going to Chino Hills.

Besides all of the hot air I hear in here, who the hell is really doing anything to make sure qualified people get elected. We are talking about 15k people voting here people!!! In a city of over 100k, and you are telling me its impossible to put a citywide coalition together to elect competent officials and get things going in the right direction. Shit, I have run college student body campaigns that are better orchestrated than the ones ive seen in this city. Our problem is we aren't anywhere near as organized as we should, and if we were, there would be different results. Hoping someone qualified is going to get elected and help the city aint gonna fly.

pomona's art colonists said...

Elliott Rothman is not very popular in the downtown area.
All of our neighbors and a lot of our customers call him a mooch! They say that he's is always looking for a freebie.
I hope that somehow he changes and becomes more supportive of us.
I don't know him myself, but I have heard that he is not a supporter of the arts, and that worries me...we have come so far and have spent so much money out of our own pockets to make this Arts Colony a success and the Downtown a place where
people would want to come.
Elliott, prove us wrong...PLEASE! Prove us wrong.

Ed said...

Maybe it's time to click our heels together and all say "there's no place like home". Oops, we are home. Welcome to Pomona!

Having relocated from Claremont a couple years back, I woke up this morning still happy to live in Pomona. Regardless of the election's outcome, I'll still look to make a difference in my community. I'll still push for bike lanes. I'll still push for making the city a better place to live. I'll still push to make the schools better and restore the image of this big, little city.

I'm a huge fan of PR, particularly when image doesn't match reality, and I've placed a lot of blue dots on maps to know that Pomona's image isn't my reality.

As far as Mayor-elect Rothman, I'm waiting with utter anticipation to see how he will handle the Watt project downtown. His campaign mailers (or those who endorsed him) clearly feel Hunter was derelict in his responsibility, so will Rothman be able to beautify the hole? I hope so! Maybe we should be redirect our efforts and ask him that question.

Anonymous said...

I expect Rothman to be a good mayor to the Phillips Ranch/ Westmont area and will leave the rest of Pomona to fend for itself.

I hope he proves me wrong.

Pomona Joe

calwatch said...

It's interesting to see the cops vs. firefighters battle this out. The police union was in favor of Querubin, Van Allen, Lantz, and Hunter, while the firefighters were in favor of Castro, Soto, Atchley, and Rothman. Looks like the firefighters won this round 3-1.

Ultimately, we need to move to runoff elections. Of course, the ones that benefit from not having runoffs are the ones that get elected with 30 and 40% of the vote, so it will have to be a citizen initiative.

Rick said...

Hey I live in this Dumbass's district and he aint worth crap. I will make is term hell. No drunkards in my city. How could any idiot vote for a baboso who doesn't want to build a shopping center in this town? He is anti business and loves to pad his list of non accomplishments. Next time they out to just hold an election for the biggest Moron in the city, it would save the tax payer money. Again we are the disgrace of the valley. Your a complete drunken dumshit Rothman.

tibbi said...

to LinknPark;


i never meant to offend anyone in particular- i just think it's misappropriation.

i've lived in Pomona my whole life, and i'm actually the fifth generation to be born in Pomona.

My family predates Pomona- we were one of the original families here....and we've seen alot happen to this place.


I just don't want to see my city end up as a generic brand that has little integirty.

this city has a lot of good character- good and bad.

Pomona is a ground for investment simply because investing can be cheap here as opposed to going to an established city. but it takes hard work.

and i don't think median income comes into play so much unless you consider utilizing the discretionary income from such income for purposes within the city.

----it's not a craphole, it's just full of indifference and people pointing the wrong fingers.


we need to flip everybody else off and do our own thing, our own special way.

speculate all you want. Pomona has her demographic, and that's the bartender, artist, working stiff, and liberal white collar dude in all of us.


i don't want to adhere to standard, when we can rewrite our own.


it's easy for residents of historical districts to complain, but talk to me, when you've been mugged on your own street and still have faith in this ol' girl we call Pomona.

that's really faith and results will come when we all discard our fake pleasantires and realize the guy selling corn on the street is no less integral than the guy writing software.


i'm not talking about socialism- i'm talking about full blown unity. and it doesn't come from a marketing consultant.

Anonymous said...

Unity!

Us residents of historical districts have it no easier than you. We live with the blight and with the crime...there are homes and cars that have been burglarized, prostitutes & dealers that do their business in our streets, people that have been confronted in front of their own homes. We are just like you and we deal with the same shit as you. You want unity then do not point out differences. We are all the same in my eyes, what about yours?

I for one was not born and raised in Pomona but I chose to come here because of the vintage homes the city has to offer. I new of the bad stigma, I new of the crime and I still invested here.

Tibbi, just like you I want a better city and will not accept anything less. I believe the largest problem here in Pomona is the internal fighting between our elected officials and other departments of the city. This causes the separation and is counter productive. We must stand together and form a better community for ourselves and the generations to come.

By the way you owe me a beer for irritating me.

Anonymous said...

Unity!

Us residents of historical districts have it no easier than you. We live with the blight and with the crime...there are homes and cars that have been burglarized, prostitutes & dealers that do their business in our streets, people that have been confronted in front of their own homes. We are just like you and we deal with the same shit as you. You want unity then do not point out differences. We are all the same in my eyes, what about yours?

I for one was not born and raised in Pomona but I chose to come here because of the vintage homes the city has to offer. I new of the bad stigma, I new of the crime and I still invested here.

Tibbi, just like you I want a better city and will not accept anything less. I believe the largest problem here in Pomona is the internal fighting between our elected officials and other departments of the city. This causes the separation and is counter productive. We must stand together and form a better community for ourselves and the generations to come.

By the way you owe me a beer for irritating me.

tibbi said...

fair enough- and good points.


*thumbs up*

LinknPark said...

What are you talking about, I like the whores turning tricks on my lawn.

Anduhrew said...

(since it seems like this is turning into a my neighborhood is worse or better than yours it'smy turn) I moved to Pomona by choice, the choice was a mixture of affordability, and location to school. When people say "starving student" they are talking about me. I get little help from the folks, that's why I'm on the ten year plan (graduating in june). Since we're talking about neighborhoods, I'll tell you about mine. It is not uncommon to hear the neighbors argue and say "I'm not going to jail!" It is not uncommon to hear gunshots before ten o'clock at night, It is not uncommon to see some new graffiti painted on my sidewalk next to all the litter left behind. There are a more than a few places on my block where the sidewalk is completely missing and what's left is just dirt (at least there's no graffiti there). BUT, My mail sticks WAY out from my crappy mailbox because the mailman is too lazy to put it all the way in, and as far as I can tell it's never been stolen. I've attached sheets of copper to my fence and even though it is a high commodity it STILL hasn't been stolen. People say hi when they walk by, families push their strollers at night, Even though the employees at the taco shop on the corner don't speak english they try REALLY hard to accomodate me and with a smile, children play in the streets. high schoolers walk by on their way to school everyday,and they mind their own business.

It seems that most people simply just don't care. If we all took the energy we're using to vent our anger on this blog and turned it into getting people to care In OTHER neighborhoods of Pomona it might actually do some good, It's obvious the Phillips Ranch Folks care and it's obvious the Lincoln Park historic distric folks care, But what about everyone else? what about the 90% of people that didn't vote who live in Pomona? they probably don't even have a clue that these blogs exist. everyone makes good points here, and these blogs exist, but where is the communication for those who aren't online? anyone volunteering to organize the citizens of Pomona?

tibbi said...

nice.

its' true.


i think i've been high strung- the election results have shown a strange duality

and in Pomona we definitely have a multiplicity

Ed said...

I'd guess that even the other 90% care about what is happening in their neighborhoods, but don't know how to change it. Btw, in a recent article Danielle Soto referenced the formation of neighborhood watch groups as one of her initial efforts. That won't help Anduhrew, but maybe he can email his representative and ask about their efforts to form neighborhood watch groups. I'd like to see the response.

It's a great city that certainly isn't in need of homogenization, but it would be nice if outsiders weren't avoiding downtown or Anduhrew's taco shop for unfounded fear of facing a gauntlet of gunfire. That's the power of using PR (or not). The city doesn't need to redact with a Sharpie as much as splash a little with a highlighter.

Anduhrew said...

ed, exactly what I was thinking, highlighting not redacting! "taking back the city" is done by showing your presence in ALL parts of it. and my taco shop is open 24 hours a day on the corner of Franklin and Garey, It's called "De Anda Taqueria"

Anonymous said...

I can't believe that we had a Mayor that was also a Pomona police dispatcher, isn't that sort of double dipping not to mention the lack education and experience.

Anonymous said...

Hey guys, I'm a newb to the Pomona blogs but glad they exist! Thanks for caring about our town. I actually bought Nell Soto's old house on Orange Grove and Huntington in district 1 (and since then had numerous knocks on the door with some interesting stories).

I had no idea when I bought the place 3 years ago that Pomona had such neglected areas, or that there was such corruption in our elected officials. Since moving in I've experienced auto theft, drug deals on my block, and a general lack of neighborly behavior. That being said, I want to help facilitate some change in this town and have no idea how. I call the graffiti hotline and ask Pomona pd to come by when homeless are going through my trashcans or soliciting off the White ave off ramp but that's not much. What would you suggest?